It used to be capable of expanding consciousness and giving people a kind of spiritual direction, but it’s like counterfeit money, you know…it looks the same, the experience seems the same, but it’s really super-misleading, it takes you right along the wrong path- and people who get hooked into dope, after the first experience with dope, can just endlessly go up their own…er…mmm…spiralling up their own..how can I put that without having you shutdown..(laughter)oohh right up their own ‘basic cavity’ shall we say (laughing) because it’s not…what is it you know…it’s like er, it’s a big hallucination.

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